WiS was a huge waste of resources. The only plus going forward would be to trim it off the release so it saves download time and disk space.

Part of me is still in disbelief.

I understand that there's probably a lot of really stressful engine problems CCP has been struggling with, but holy ****, it's been like 7 years of this. I thought we were finally making progress. I fully expect them to make a half-assed attempt to put all the players looking forward to WiS at ease this coming fanfest, but i don't think anyone will be falling for it again.

Forum activity has fallen to an all time low ever since Star Citizen and the new Elite were announced, which can't be a coincidence. Apathy has set in now that it's clear EVEs days are numbered. The one hope to breathe new life into this game was WiS, so this is the final nail in the coffin as far as i'm concerned.

Those of you who fought so hard to keep this game as simple as it is, grats, you win an empty server.

It's fine that people like yourself just want space combat and see anything else as 'fluff', but many people playing EVE hunger for more, and upcoming games are going to be offering the complete space experience EVE has always promised but never delivered.

The violent opposition from people like yourself to everything except space combat may seem like fun and games now, but the reality of what you've been begging for will set in when all that's left are people like yourself. You'll probably end up leaving EVE to play one of the newer games yourself after hisec production grinds to a halt and there are no more 'carebears' to harass.

Welp. I don't know what else to say. CCP just keeps leaning more and more toward nut job psychos who just want to ruin people's fun. If that's what Eve is going towards, it's time to vote with my wallet.

-2 accounts. o/ CCP, see you never

You mean the stories and rich history of scamming and ganking 'carebears'?

Whether you accept it or not, you need them more than they need you. They won't miss being ganked, but you'll miss ganking them.

Kickstart Walk in Stations/Incarna and we'll get it this summer.

I'm still hoping that CCP are really working on WiS content in secret, keeping it out of ear-shot of the players and will throw it in as a surprise at the same time they connect Dust to the TQ server. It'd make sense, if mercs can wander around in stations and whatever, how come we're confined to captains quarters? Plus with all the negativity Incarna caused, and how a lot of people use CQ as a running joke then mocking all the people that do like it and the character customiser, it would make sense to keep any content being developed for it quiet, so all the nay-sayers don't have something new to flame and troll.

On a side note, I'm a fan of WiS, and the character customiser. I change my character appearance once every few months and like to play about matching makeup, hairstyles, colours and tattoos with clothing and lighting to get good avatar pictures, and occassionally I switch on CQ so I can waltz around the room, sit and watch the t.v, stare at whatever ship is active as it slowly spins around in the distance. sure it doesn't actually do anything right now, but it's nice to know it's there, and to admire the scenery every once in a while.

Do you run back and forth across your house to get to different sections?

That sounds like paranioa though.

It doesn't HAVE to be manditory. No one should be required to exit their ship. Locking us out of ship spinning when incarna released was stupid.

That should always be an option.
I'm not forced to undock, you shouldn't be forced to exit your pod.


There's nothing wrong with taking the stance that social enviroments shouldn't be required to be utilized if you don't want to use them.

I would never do the station exploration stuff, doesn't mean I don't want them to do it, but I would definately have an issue if they told me I HAD TO.

What is wrong with putting the 5 or 6 guys, or however many it was, in Team Avatar on developming WiS beyond CQ now as aposed to year or two from now. Or letting those half dozen guys develop small feature that will eventually grow into station exploration.

A few guys working on WiS isn't going to be a detriment to the rest of the game. It'll only mean we'll see something sooner than later.

Except it WILL happen.

I'm saying stat now, not a year or two from now.

WiS is where EVE is going in the future. it's always been intended. For as long as there has been EVE, there has been the intent to move to station based enviroments.

So how much does Dust cost us Dev time ?

All that math is equally applicable to any development time spent on any area of the game. Ultimately what it comes down to is whether people want what the dev time is being spent on, and how much they want it. That's pretty much it. It's basically a question of popular of demand, and it has been obvious for quite some time that people really do want WiS.